Played a game last night that had a lot of draws coming ip and not sure we were resolving them correctly.
For example, I attack and roll 3 dice in attack (and 1 in defence): 5, 3, 2 (and a 4 defence)
My opponent defends with all 3 dice: 5, 5, 2
First up, we are drawn as we both got a 5 as highest dice, so we go to number of dice rolled. Again we're drawn as we both rolled 3 dice against each other in that exchange (presumably no counting the defence dice?)
So now we go to the second highest dice rolled, he presumably ignores the other 5 and uses his 2 compared against my 3 and so succeed in hitting him with a success level of 3-2= 1 ??
Or can he use his other 5 to go against my 3?
Diff scenario.
I attack with a 5, 3, 3
He defends with a 5, 2
The 5s draw so we go to number of dice rolled - I rolled 3 dice, he rolled 2 - I win that exchange... But what is my success level? Presumably 0 as 5-5 = 0 ??
Or do we go to next dice down again, ie 3-2=1 ?
Hmm... looking at that, I'd say that it would be that he successfully defended with that second 5, beating your second of a 3.
As to reverse the situation, if that first one was 5,5,2 attack and 5,3,2 defense. Your attack would hit (same reasoning as above), but I thought it was that it would be considered a 0 SL, as it had to go to a tie-breaker.
At least, that how I've been doing it. Interested in seeing the results if it's otherwise.
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Jason is correct. The "next highest dice" is referring to the dice not the number. So you drew with the 5 and then went to the next dice which were 5 and 3 so the 5 wins and he defends.
SL in the 0 is also correct as its a tie breaker.
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OK, so one last scenario, that I'm pretty sure on, but it seems to be a goo dplace to clarify:
I attack with a 5, 4 and1
They defend with a 5, 2, 1
First we draw on the 5s, so go to number of dice rolled, which is also a draw, so we go to next highest number, being my 4 against their 2 which presumably means I win the combat with a SL of 4-2 = 2 ?
I only ask as the above scenario also comes upder the section for draws / tie breakers, but does seem to have a SL that is not 0 correct...?
The tie breakers are to decide if who was successful. If you are at a tie breaker the SL will always be 0.
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one query on the examples given- when comparing number of dice rolled in a draw, do you compare the whole pool or just the relevant ones to that occasion?
(ie my combat pool after modifiers is 4, I roll 3 attack dice and 1 defence, my opponents cp is 2, he puts both in attack- if his attack roll is a draw with my defence roll, does he win because he rolled more attack dice than i rolled defence, or do i win because my total pool is more than his?)
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It's the models orginal combat pool
"To a real warrior, power perceived may be power achieved."
phew, been doing it right then! thankyou!
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hang on - if we drew on the initial 5's and went to second dice, in this case my 5 and his 3, why do we still end up with a SL of 0? surely it's going to be 5-3 = 2...?
or is it a case of if the original comparison is a draw then regardless of how it pans out going thru the process of determining who won, the SL will ALWAYS be a 0?
OK - so the initial draw resolution of who rolled the most dice, this is on the entire combat pool rolled (ie the CP value with all ± modifiers), not just the proportion of dice relevant to that attack / defence?
going back to the very first OT:
"Again we're drawn as we both rolled 3 dice against each other in that exchange (presumably no counting the defence dice?)"
... but you're saying we do count the defence dice?
So in that original example, I rolled 4 dice (3 attack, 1 defence), my opponent rolled 3 dice (all 3 in defence), we initially drew on the highest numbers both being 5, but then going to the number of dice, I would win (as I rolled 4 dice, and him 3) and with a SL = 0 ?
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