When the feat is active no melée nor charge can be performed into the area. Does that mean that no model can charge to any other model who is in the area, or that the enemy model cannot charge if he start the action into the area?
I guess is the second one, but I rather prefer to be sure :).
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This seems to have slipped under the radar.
You cannot declare charge or attack actions inside the aura, but I believe you can charge, or attack move, into the area.
However, it has been clarified that no dice may be allocated to attack in the aura. So you can charge into an enemy, but you can then only put dice in defence.
Hm, that could make it interesting for someone who has cool defensive triggers, like Ekusa. Putting all dice into defence against an opponent who puts none in attack generally gives fairly high success levels.
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Yeah, i guessed it was like that... but on the other hand, when you perform a charge, part of the action (or the resolution of the action at less) is, technically, performed inside the are...
Well, if it was clarified that there can be melée exchanges into the area (even if there cannot be attack dice), then it must be possible to perform a charge from outside the area into it.
Where was that stated? I didn't see it on the faq's (the thing about combating into the area and the all-dice-in-defece staff)
Here it is.
Yes, it's confusing. Yes, it is hidden away in the dark recesses of the forum. Yes, the FAQ is sadly outdated.
There will, I hear, be a rules overhaul soon, and in the meantime the FAQ isn't really being updated as it should.
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Oooook, thanks a lot.
Yes, we have been playing since just some weeks, we play a lot and we grow lots of doubts... I try to check them at the old threads, but there are 12 pages of them, all in a single pack for the just arrived ones...
Thanks a lot for all the help, henrix.
But don't feel safe, I'll bring more doubts tomorrow!! (just a joke... definitive mostly a joke... XDD). ;)
(Actually, we are testing new models everytime we feel reasonably doubtless, so...)
What would be the point? If no dice can be rooled in attack, you will not suceed any defense, thus, not activate any trigger, will you?
If you put no dice in a spot (either attack or defense), you are considered to have rolled a "0" for that spot.
It's not "oh, you didn't use any attack dice, so my defense dice don't matter."
It's "oh, you didn't use any attack dice, so it's my highest defense die versus your 0."
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Ok, i would have consideree this as an exploit, but if it is that way
the ekusa point is a bit moot as he can never charge or engage voluntarily, so he'd only get to use these triggers when someone from outside the aura has charged him, which isn't terribly likely:)
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Ekusa might already be in BtB with a raging Oni, or it could be Yumi or anyone else with defense triggers.
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Can a disengage move be made in an aura of serenity? The wording states no attack or charge move can be made. This doesnt stipulate disengage. Especially if all dice have to be put in defense as previously stated. Auto disengage would be very useful.
A Disengage action is neither a Melee nor Charge action nor do you need to place dice in attack, so it is certainly allowed. It is also certain to succeed, as the opponent cannot place dice in attack.
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So a disengage inside the Aura becomes an Automatic Disengage?
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we play it that way, why roll dice when the result isnt in doubt?
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Yes, but the opponent must be tired / exhausted after the disengage, if we follow the rules.
An Automatic Disengage requires no test, and so cannot trigger any defensive triggers, otherwise it'd be the same, as far as I can see.
Even an Automatic Disengage tires the opponent. You still declare a Disengage* - the only difference being that you roll no test.
* At least I think you do. Looking it through now again I feel a little bit uncertain, to be honest. But the Automatic Disengage only says you do not need to make a test, not that you do not need a Disengage action.
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Automatic disengage doesn not tire the opponent.
"To a real warrior, power perceived may be power achieved."
Ah, ok.
But it still takes a Disengage action even when using Automatic Disengage, doesn't it?
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My wording for this one was bad. Should read, "this model may ignore enemy models in BtB when declaring actions and may move out of BtB without declaring a disengage action "
This is fixed in version 2
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